Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!know!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!apple!rubin From: rubin@Apple.COM (Owen R. Rubin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: Re: SE/30 -> 32 bit clean ROMS? Message-ID: <10851@goofy.Apple.COM> Date: 22 Oct 90 18:00:44 GMT References: <1990Oct16.120133.15666@lth.se> <10744@goofy.Apple.COM> <1990Oct18.175118.5227@cs.utk.edu> Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA Lines: 56 In article <1990Oct18.175118.5227@cs.utk.edu> wnn@ornl.gov (Wolfgang N. Naegeli) writes: >In article <10744@goofy.Apple.COM> rubin@Apple.COM (Owen R. Rubin) writes: >> As I read these comments I often wonder if you people also complain to >> BMW and Chevrolet and Ford (etc) about upgrades to your cars? > OK, OK!!!!!!!! I guess I was a bit botherd when I wrote that!!!!!! I got the message people, it was a bad analogy at best. I guess I hear that same scream so many times during the day I just got fed up with it. Thanks to thoes of you who wrote me in an reasonable manner to complain that I was way off base. I stand corrected. But please recall that I did say that I agreed that ROM upgrades should be available as well. It was the crying that I didn't like. As for crying, SMU, you still there. You did the best crying if all!!!!!!! Again, as some people seem to have missed (hello, SMU, can you hear me, is this thing on?????), I do not speak for Apple. I wrote my own opinions. I said what I felt, not what Apple asks me to say. They do NOT tell me what to say or think. If you do not understand this, I'm sorry for you. Several of you said that Apple must be this and that because of what I wrote. I'd like to think I have that much influence on Apple, but I only work here!!!!! But how to solve the problem. Since I cannot release the ROM's obviously, and since you all don't set Apple's policy, you are stuck right now! But what I will do is this: Since I DO work for Apple, perhaps I can get the ball rolling from inside. But this is what it will take: I have NOT saved all the posting as to why there should be a ROM upgrade made available to the general public. Apple actually did this once from the 64k ROMS to the 128K ROMS and created some additional problems (ask any Atari ST user who had a "Magic Sac" cartridge and a set of 64k ROMS!!!!!!) And I do not plan to sift through 2000 articles to find them. BUT, I will take the swamp of mail if you are all willing to send it! I need you to explain in a mail message why you need the ROM upgrade and why the System upgrades on the new system disks do not give you what you need. Be as brief as possible please. Tell your friends to mail message too. I'll collect them and present them to the "powers that be" and suggest that a ROM upgrade possibly be made available. I cannot say that anything will ever becomne of it, but I will give it a shot. Interested? Its the best I can offer from inside Apple. And again, I do this as myself, NOT as an Apple employee. My opinions and my actions are mine and I do not speak for Apple. (I repeat this again for SMU, because one of their staff missed all the disclaimers last time). -- -Owen- rubin@apple.com or RUBIN1@AppleLink.apple.com *---------------------------------------------------------------------------- * The above are my ideas, my feelings, & my writings (unless noted) and this * is my disclaimer. Also, spelling errors don't count in vi. right? :-) *----------------------------------------------------------------------------