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From: philip@pescadero.Stanford.EDU (Philip Machanick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT Mach (was Re: UNIX is yuck (was Re: Next intro...)
Message-ID: <1990Oct23.185039.13093@Neon.Stanford.EDU>
Date: 23 Oct 90 18:50:39 GMT
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In article <15356@burdvax.PRC.Unisys.COM>, dave@PRC.Unisys.COM (David Lee Matuszek) writes:
|> In article <1990Oct22.213553.20022@Neon.Stanford.EDU> philip@pescadero.stanford.edu writes:
|>  
|> >The Mac may be a lot more difficult to program than it needs to be, but let's
|> >stick to the facts. I don't know about Think C or MPW, but this statement
|> >implies that there is no way of writing trivial programs on the Mac. In THINK
|> >Pascal, you can use ordinary ANSI-Pascal IO. Here's your "Hello World"
|> >program:
|> >
|> >program hello;
|> >begin
|> >  showtext;
|> >  writeln('hello world');
|> >end.
|> Let's stick to the facts.  This program only works in the THINK Pascal
|> environment.  If you want to compile it as a stand-alone program,
|> things get a couple orders of magnitude more difficult.  (I haven't
|> upgraded to 3.0 yet, things may have improved...slightly.)

I have written programs in which this worked just fine. I do recall
having a problem with one of the earlier versions of Think Pascal, which
tended to crash after running standalone if I used the text window
(when running a Mac II specifically), but this was years ago. I don't have
a Mac in my office, so if you want to tell me I'm wrong, get a copy of a
_recent_ version of Think Pascal, type in the program and tell me what
happens if you try to run it standalone.

Let's stick to the empirically verifiable facts...
-- 
Philip Machanick
philip@pescadero.stanford.edu