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From: mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (Mark Crispin)
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Subject: Re: X11 opinion.
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Date: 21 Oct 90 23:09:22 GMT
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In article <Mb86rbq00VI8AbioJ7@andrew.cmu.edu> dd26+@andrew.cmu.edu (Douglas F. DeJulio) writes:
>I wish people would abandon
>this foolishnes called X11.

And replace it with what, pray tell?

The "foolishness" of X11 allows multi-platform graphics connectivity
that NeXTstep does not allow.

The "foolishness" of X11 has a much better VT100 terminal emulator
than Terminal or Shell (I haven't compared it with the 2.0 one yet);
it *correctly* emulates a VT100 and does so a lot faster.

The "foolishness" of X11 allows the use of multi-national character
sets which NeXTstep does not as yet do, *including* in 2.0.  All we
have from NeXT is promises.  With "foolish" X11 using XNeXT, those of
us who want to do Japanese JIS, Chinese GB, and Chinese BIG5
processing on a NeXT can do so *now*, without waiting for NeXT to
deliver on promises which may never be fufilled.

"Foolish" X11 allows us to use US-produced and maintained hardware to
access the 25 Dynasties database at our East Asian Languages Library
instead of having to buy Taiwanese PCs that explode if the monitor is
turned on before the CPU is.

Such "foolishness", to want to be able get your work done!

If I were to wager on which was more likely to survive longer, X11 or
NeXT, I would put my money on "foolish" X11.

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