Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!brunix!cs.brown.edu!rca From: rca@cs.brown.edu (Ronald C.F. Antony) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Boycott NeXT offerings that include a free copy of Lotus Improv Message-ID: <54357@brunix.UUCP> Date: 25 Oct 90 15:02:16 GMT References: <123663@linus.mitre.org> <970@earth.cs.utexas.edu> <31403@netnews.upenn.edu> <5816@mace.cc.purdue.edu> Sender: news@brunix.UUCP Reply-To: rca@cs.brown.edu (Ronald C.F. Antony) Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept. Lines: 45 I guess the most important idea of patents got lost nowadays. Originally patents were invented such that specific procedures to produce something did not get lost as earlier in history because the inventor dies and took his secret with him into the grave. It was supposed that the inventor had to disclose the content and the procedure such that any other person in the same field could reproduce the results exactly. (That's also where the name patent comes from, the latin patere which means be open). So in exchange for a contribution to human knowledge, the inventor had the exclusive right to use it for a limited amount of time. This way he could get back his research costs, and make the profit he needed to live and reward him for the risk he took. Patents also don't stop research. If you build on top of a patent and improve it significantly, you can get a patent on the improvement, and the original inventor may not use your invention although you built on top of his. Usually this is resolved with a cross-licensing agreement. This is a fair way to make sure there will not be a technology monopoly if there are other inventors around. Then there was the copyright that protected artists from people that wanted to make a quick profit from work another did. But in a piece of art through the publication, it is also become a piece of human knowledge. (Well except it it is too abstract, but that's something else). Because it is creative work there is noone dependent on it, protection of artwork does not restrict someone else to be creative. Thus the protection holds for a much longer time than for patents. And finally we have the computer industry that comes along, sees both and wants to pick the best out of both: - long protection - no publication - no contribution to human knowledge - hefty profits I think it is just not fair to give programs copyright protection. It would be more appropriate to give them patents. Just look at all the tool the big software companies have in house. Will we ever see them? No. Can we ever learn from them? No. Can we ever extend them and improve them? No. Basically what happens is that the software companies get all the protection and more than from a patent with no contribution to the community as a whole. That's what I think is disgusting, not the fact that intellectual property is protected. -- Ronald ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." Bernhard Shaw | rca@cs.brown.edu or antony@browncog.bitnet ------------------------------------------------------------------------------