Xref: utzoo talk.origins:12264 sci.bio:3664 Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!rutgers!sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ncar!asuvax!mcdphx!hrc!gtx!al From: al@gtx.com (Alan Filipski) Newsgroups: talk.origins,sci.bio Subject: Re: Humans caused by EBE's? Message-ID: <1370@gtx.com> Date: 17 Oct 90 15:12:15 GMT References: <1990Oct12.160443.18953@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> <3610098@hp-ptp.HP.COM> Reply-To: al@gtx.UUCP (Alan Filipski) Organization: GTX Corporation, Phoenix Lines: 46 In article <3610098@hp-ptp.HP.COM> davew@hp-ptp.HP.COM (Dave_Waller) writes: >In article <1097@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> pepke@gw.scri.fsu.edu (Eric Pepke) writes: >}So, the idea that humans were just plopped here, a la Douglas Adams, is >}pretty unlikely. Even if this planet were started from scratch and >}evolution happened again, the chances that it would produce anything >}remotely like a human being are vanishingly small. It might produce >}intelligence and empathy and things like that, but the creature that >}posessed those qualities wouldn't look much like us. > >Why not? It seems to me that starting completely over would produce >creatures generally similar to the ones on the planet today. After all, >most of our gross features are extremely refined adaptations to the >environment around us, and leaving that alone, it seems probable to me >that similar creatures would evolve. I don't buy the "intelligent Well, on a topic as speculative as this, everyone is entitled to an opinion, but I'd suggest S.J. Gould's "Wonderful Life", which argues for the first view above. If I understand him correctly, he says that the evolutionary process has had episodes of radiation (prolific speciation) followed by a rapid decimation (reduction in variety) and that this process has a large almost random or chaotic component to it. The particular course taken depends upon what the particular genetic coding allows, and upon random events in small populations, or the precise state of the gene pool when some catastrophe or global change occurs. I hope I'm not putting words in Gould's mouth, but that was the impression I got from reading the book a few months ago. Comments? [I'll throw this into rec.arts.books, too, just to say that Gould is the best science writer I know, and my small collection of desert island books would certainly include a collection of his essays. If you like science, you've probably read things by him, if you don't think you like science, get one of his collections of essays-- you may be surprised.] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ( Alan Filipski, GTX Corp, 8836 N. 23rd Avenue, Phoenix, Arizona 85021, USA ) ( {decvax,hplabs,uunet!amdahl,nsc}!sun!sunburn!gtx!al (602)870-1696 ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ God is a comedian playing to an audience that's afraid to laugh.