Newsgroups: sci.military Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!att!cbnews!military From: cga66@ihlpy.att.com (Patrick V Kauffold) Subject: VIFF (was The Snakebite/Pougachev's Cobra) Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Date: Fri, 19 Oct 90 03:39:33 GMT Approved: military@att.att.com Message-ID: <1990Oct19.033933.16625@cbnews.att.com> References: <1990Oct15.033716.12587@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military-request@att.att.com Lines: 36 From: cga66@ihlpy.att.com (Patrick V Kauffold) >From article <1990Oct15.033716.12587@cbnews.att.com>, by paj : > I saw this manouver done on the Soviet Su-27 Flanker on TV during the > Farnborough Airshow. Does it have any practical use, or is it just a > neat display exercise (like the Harrier's bow)? > > I imagine that it would cause rapid deceleration (causing the bogie to > fly past into your sights) and might hide the engine well enough to > lose any heat-seekers. Even exhaust-seeking IR missiles might nip > past under the tail since the exhaust jet no longer has the plane > beyond it. > > Paul. Some news sources reported that the British used the VIFF maneuver (Vectoring In Forward Flight) during the Falklands party, but I can't remember reading any authoritative reports of results. Supposedly, this was considered for use with the earlier AIM-9 models which had to be fired from behind the target. At deployment, the Brits had only the earlier Sidewinders (but were later armed with AIM-9L). It was supposed to work like this: Harrier ahead, with a bandit on his tail. In level flight, Harrier pilot rotates the exhaust nozzles to full down (or just past to reverse) position, resulting in a sudden loss of forward speed plus a rapid gain in altitude. The pursuing bandit overtakes and flies past (and under) the Harrier, which quickly goes back to forward thrust and puts the AIM-9 up the tailpipe. Anyway, the Brits thought it had practical value. Pat Kauffold