Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!samsung!xylogics!bu.edu!att!cbnews!military From: plains!umn-cs!LOCAL!thornley@uunet.UU.NET (David H. Thornley) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Civil War technology Keywords: Ironclads, Civil War Message-ID: <1990Oct24.152105.16843@cbnews.att.com> Date: 24 Oct 90 15:21:05 GMT References: <1990Oct11.050851.29295@cbnews.att.com> <1990Oct18.021506.7493@cbnews.att.com> <1990Oct19..15182@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military-request@att.att.com Followup-To: soc.history Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis - CSCI Dept. Lines: 35 Approved: military@att.att.com From: plains!umn-cs!LOCAL!thornley@uunet.UU.NET (David H. Thornley) [mod.note: Followups to soc.history. - Bill ] In article <1990Oct19..15182@cbnews.att.com> raymond%europa@uunet.UU.NET (Raymond Man) writes: > > >From: raymond%europa@uunet.UU.NET (Raymond Man) > >I seem to recall that in J.F.C. Fuller's book (I forgot the title), total >war means involving the whole population of the country. Before the >Napolion wars, most fighting are done by professional soldiers and >mercinaries. > No war has ever included the entire population of a country, except as victims. It is real hard to find a military function for a baby. If we restrict the idea of "whole population," we find that quite a few ancient societies had the idea that all of the free healthy adult males owed military service. Often, the situation was such that most of them could indeed participate in a battle or war, whereas more modern wars typically require more of a logistic base, due to fighting over larger areas, so in this sense modern wars are less total than the ancient ones. (We also have prejudices against slaughtering entire cities, or selling them into slavery.) As an aside, many people seem to be considering Western European warfare from the end of the Thirty Years' War to the French Revolution as a general model of warfare before Napoleon. It doesn't work. The French Revolution and following wars were certainly the most total since the Thirty Years' War, and contributed many techonological innovations, but conscription (in various forms) and any reasonable definition of "total war" were practiced thousands of years before. DHT