Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!orion.oac.uci.edu!ucivax!gateway From: marla@Eng.Sun.COM (Marla Parker) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: Personal Change Message-ID: <1596@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> Date: 22 Oct 90 19:52:45 GMT References: <656193285@romeo.cs.duke.edu> <58384@microsoft.UUCP> Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca. Lines: 33 Approved: tittle@ics.uci.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: alexandre-dumas.ics.uci.edu In article <58384@microsoft.UUCP> ellene@microsoft.UUCP (Ellen EADES) writes: >... >I think part of feminism is the ability to look at yourself, set >goals, make hard decisions, and live your life as you want to. If >your friend's first priority is remaining with her husband, she needs >to accept that he is unlikely to change. I'd call this wisdom, not feminism. :-) Changing oneself is hard enough; changing someone else nearly impossible and in some ways morally wrong in my opinion. I'll try to set an example and stand by my beliefs, but I wont try to coerce my spouse to change. (What about children, though?) My husband and I were each raised in extremely sexist families. That cannot be wiped out by just saying, "Ok, now we're going to be equal and have an equitable marriage." He says, with some humor, that a few years after we married I became "way feminist", and if pressed he might admit to being somewhat feminist himself. For both of us though, what we believe in theory and what we practice in fact are not always the same. Sometimes it seems like what *I* believe in theory and what *he* practices in fact are not even close! But close enough, fortunately. Given that I have changed since we first got together, if he had NOT changed at all, and/or he had become more sexist and more like our fathers instead of less, then I would be faced with some difficult decisions. -- Marla Parker (415) 336-2538 marla@eng.sun.com