Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!yale!mintaka!bloom-beacon!ora!daemon From: RA04@Lehigh.UCAR.EDU Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: Feminism's ill effects on men? Message-ID: <20109001:45:10RA04@lehigh.bitnet> Date: 23 Oct 90 15:56:24 GMT Sender: ambar@ora.com (Jean Marie Diaz) Organization: O'Reilly and Associates Inc., Cambridge MA Lines: 12 Approved: ambar@ora.com Re: dk's two facts (1-men are on avg stronger than women; 2-technology can compensate for women's lesser strength), I accept without argument, for I think that women's use of machines can liberate both women and men. But the point I was making is that our culture's "man against," "conquest of," and similar conceptions are unnecessarily competitive yet valued, whereas cooperative conceptual models are unnecessarily devalued as "weak." The valued and the devalued are by false analogy connected to notions of "strong / masculine" and "weak / feminine"; in this context, feminism can encourage world-views in which humans work within natural systems without trying to dominate or annihilate them. r.a.