Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!know!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!aero!ms.uky.edu From: kaveh@ms.uky.edu (Kaveh Baharestan) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: Who's Exploiting Who? Message-ID: Date: 24 Oct 90 23:37:07 GMT References: <65210@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> <656288051@lear.cs.duke.edu> <*X4%%|+@rpi.edu> Sender: nadel@aerospace.aero.org Organization: U of Ky, Math. Sciences, Lexington KY Lines: 27 Approved: nadel@aerospace.aero.org Status: R mittmann@ral.rpi.edu (Michael Mittmann) writes: >In article kaveh@ms.uky.edu (Kaveh Baharestan) writes: >>gazit@cs.duke.edu (Hillel Gazit) writes: >>>No, but I know people who are excited by *playing* a game like this. >>>The porno you described is a *play* between adults and not a real >>>rape. I hope that you can see the difference. >In my opinion this is blatantly false. Do you have a lover? Do you >ever play games with hir? Most of the people I've spoken to about this >(admittedly a small sample) do, and I would bet that they know they are >playing a game. Ahhh... excuse me... you do realize that the pargraph above is talking about playacting *rape* don't you? You know people that playact rape? I've been involved in some imaginative lovemakeing but I'm just really sad to say that it didn't involve acting out rape. >>Most people don't. At this point i would like to clearify the statement "Most people don't": most people do not have a clear idea of what rape is. (granted there are some foggy areas here) A LOT of porn rapes are where the women initailly say "no" or are aprehensive about sex, but the guys know what women want-need and after a little protest, the women start to enjoy it. Sound like rape? does to me. Sound like a lot of defenses rapists use? does to me. Nuf said.