Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!orion.oac.uci.edu!ucivax!gateway From: judy@altair.la.locus.COM (Judy Leedom Tyrer) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: Feminism's ill effects on men? Message-ID: <18761@oolong.la.locus.com> Date: 26 Oct 90 15:55:24 GMT References: <655058917@lear.cs.duke.edu> <17931@oolong.la.locus.com> <656123957@lear.cs.duke.edu> Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Inglewood, CA Lines: 56 Approved: tittle@ics.uci.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: zola.ics.uci.edu In article <656123957@lear.cs.duke.edu> gazit@cs.duke.edu (Hillel Gazit) writes: >In article <17931@oolong.la.locus.com> (Judy Leedom Tyrer) writes: >>Some feminists (me) also believe in minimum federal government and actually >>believe that such things as ERA and Abortion Rights legitimately belong >>at the State level. > >And in how many states you lost the vote on state ERA, even though >the popular support before the debate started was quite high? My apologies. The ERA calls for a constitutional ammendment and that is legislation at the federal level, therefore I am not distressed that the ERA did not pass. [Constitutional amendment calls for ratification by 2/3's of the states, which was why ERA got voted on in each state although it was federal level legislation. --CLT] >And how many abortion right laws did you pass, at state level, >in the last 15 years? None were necessary in the past 15 years. Now the right of abortion will be discussed at the state level where, I believe, it belongs. ----- Herein lies the problem. I believe that it is important to have a consistant political philosophy and not base your philosophy on "in this case it should be this way and in that case that way". So, while I believe that discrimination based on gender is detrimental to our country, I have a hard time believing that a constitutional ammendment is the correct or best method of achieving this result. Yes, I want this kind of protection at the federal level, but I don't want the kind of government which is created when everything is legislated at the federal level. The same applies to abortion. So, I must ask myself, what is worse - a strong federal government that legislates the lives of a divergent group of people, or the possiblity that some smaller, more heterogeneous group of people might legislate differently than I believe they should. I think the former is more dangerous and less desirable, so I must, to remain politically consistant, accept that my special interests also do not belong in the hands of our federal government. I am not a libertarian. I believe in government. But the federal government should only provide for a common defense, legislate interstate commerce, determine foreigh policy, and collect taxes for these functions. I do NOT want them legislating speed limits, drug laws, building codes, welfare, education, art, abortion, etc. So, I am one feminist, and suspect I am not the only one, who believes that the special interests of feminism do not outweigh the need for a representative government as I believe ours was originally conceived to be. Our country is just too diverse for people to be best represented by a central agency. Judy