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From: gazit@cs.duke.EDU (Hillel Gazit)
Newsgroups: soc.feminism
Subject: Re: Who's Exploiting Who?
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Date: 26 Oct 90 18:34:11 GMT
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In article <9010241437.aa17726@ICS.UCI.EDU> (Cindy Tittle) writes:

>On a related note, one of the biggest problems that S&M has is that
>many people view it as examples of people enjoying non-consensual sex.
>The perception of S&M and the posed pictures of it promote this view.
>The grand irony, of course, is that actual participation in S&M is
>highly consensual.  If I know of people that participate in S&M, I
>know that they precisely understand the notion of consensual sex.

I think that the idea that rape fantasies cause rape has no base.

One can understand S&M perfectly well, even play it *safe* and still
have fantasies about non-consensual S&M (violent rape for example).

Hillel                                              gazit@cs.duke.edu

"I prefer partners who do not make hard and fast distinctions between
masturbation and lovemaking, between what we can think of and what we
can do, who are willing to risk their dignity in pursuit of delight."
                               -- Pat Califia