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From: jgd@rsiatl.UUCP (John G. DeArmond)
Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
Subject: Re: logistar (logistan?) and Revlon
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Date: 28 Oct 90 10:15:32 GMT
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>I suspect that a criminal-law issue may be raised by unauthorized
>entry into Revlon's computer, if in fact it was unauthorized.

I'm not so sure it will.  In fact, I don't think it will be considered
unauthorized.  A few years ago, I had the (ahem) opportunity to 
take possesion of some client's property as the result of my winning
a collection suit.  My lawyer explained in great detail what I could
do. (Note that we did not have a seizure order; at that point, we had
only an order to pay.)  He explained that we could enter the client's
office as long as we did not break any barriers; that we could take
anything we could get our hands on as long as physical violence was 
not used; and that we could arm ourselves in order to protect ourselves
against possible violence from THEM.

We never got to test these instructions because after we recieved
trivial payment, the company went bankrupt.  In summary, repossesions 
and collections have extraordinary protection under the law.  After being
tutored in the law, I'd certainly not want to be in debt and have an
agressive collection agent on my  tail.

John

-- 
John De Armond, WD4OQC  | "The truly ignorant in our society are those people 
Radiation Systems, Inc. | who would throw away the parts of the Constitution 
Atlanta, Ga             | they find inconvenient."  -me   Defend the 2nd
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