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From: joe@zitt (Joe Zitt)
Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk,alt.sex,alt.love
Subject: Re: Man/Boy Love versus "child molestation"
Message-ID: <6Z0RR1w163w@zitt>
Date: 29 Oct 90 03:24:52 GMT
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Organization: The Shekhinah Project, Austin, TX
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gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore) writes:

> joe@zitt (Joe Zitt) wrote:
> > alt.child-abuser or similar mailing list might be a good idea; there 
> > appear to be relatively few self-help groups for these people . . .
> 
> The name is way off though; how useful would alt.drugs be if it was
> called "alt.drug-abusers"?  Even Mr. Zitt, who thinks people who love
> children (and children who love adults -- who are even more victimized
> by society, since they are presumed unable to choose for themselves);
> anyway, even Mr. Zitt seems to think that child/adult love and sex
> is by definition "abuse".  If you start from that point of view, the
> control freaks have already won the battle, simply by definition of terms.

You >may< have a valid point. I'm not sure I have enough knowledge in 
such matters to say whether either of us is way off the mark, though I 
sure flame-warriors from both sides of the question will soon be banging 
at our mailboxes. What do others think?

OBEFF: This may be an interesting issue from the communications rights 
standpoint. What is the legality-standing of NAMBLA? (Much as I dislike 
them, I would tend to hope that their meetings are not outlawed.) How 
would this translate to newsgroup validity? How about the allowability of 
alt.child-abusers vs alt.child-lovers?


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