Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!lavaca.uh.edu!menudo.uh.edu!sugar!ficc!peter From: peter@ficc.ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: Censorship on the USENET Keywords: censorship Message-ID: <5_T6U1B@xds13.ferranti.com> Date: 2 Nov 90 00:13:57 GMT References: <1990Nov01.064916.19218@looking.on.ca> <15700@paperboy.OSF.ORG> Reply-To: peter@ficc.ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) Distribution: na Organization: Xenix Support, FICC Lines: 15 In article <15700@paperboy.OSF.ORG> mbrown@tonic.osf.org (Mark Brown) writes: > Here's a good definition for you... > It's judgement when an editor/publisher (of any medium) supresses something > she doesn't want to display/print. > It's censorship when done by an authority. > No violence is needed. (It helps to use the dictionary, sometimes.) Anything done by the state against someone's will involves violence or the threat of violence, because the power of the state to enforce this act grows out of the right of the state to use violence to that end. Outside of Marxist or Libertarian utopias, there is no other basis for the power of the state. And remember that "utopia" means "noplace". -- Peter da Silva. `-_-' +1 713 274 5180. 'U` peter@ferranti.com