Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!know!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!ucsd!ucbvax!BBN.COM!clynn From: clynn@BBN.COM (Charles Lynn) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Reliable Datagram ??? Protocols Message-ID: <9010292045.AA11871@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: 29 Oct 90 16:04:08 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 6 Doesn't TCP require the connection to be in the ESTABLISHED state before it is permitted to deliver data to the application? If so, I think B cannot see the data until it gets the ACK of its SYN from A, thus the response from B cannot be includes with B's SYN ACK. Charlie