Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!jarthur!usc!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!wuarchive!udel!princeton!njin!limonce From: limonce@pilot.njin.net (Tom Limoncelli) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: CALL FOR LOCAL DISCUSSION Revision 2: Split the c.s.a group more? Keywords: reply time limited Message-ID: Date: 29 Oct 90 21:20:15 GMT References: <1990Oct28.001448.25414@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> Organization: Drew University/NJIN Lines: 129 Intro: I just want to say that I used to read news.groups continually until about 2 months ago. I doubt the philosophy that they hold has changed much. My suggestions are based on what I think they will yell and scream about. I'm keeping most of my personal nit-picking to myself. Life it too short to get angry about Usenet. I THINK KENT HAS DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB, AND THAT THIS REORGANIZATION IS VERY NEEDED. Chances are, I will vote for whatever proposal makes to Call For Votes. Anything is better than the current situation. In article <1990Oct28.001448.25414@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Kent Paul Dolan) writes: [Much deleted] > comp.sys.amiga.announce > comp.sys.amiga.reviews Fine. > comp.sys.amiga.introduction First of all, the name.space.control.freaks of news.groups will dislike this name. ".newuser" has precident, why not use it? (I admit to often siding with the name.space.control.freaks, maybe I'm a n.s.c.f wanna-be? :-) ) > comp.sys.amiga.hardware > comp.sys.amiga.programmer > comp.sys.amiga.games Yea! (If I recall, with the c.s.a.tech vote was running, I posted ".tech is ambiguous... let's go with .programmer". Gloat, gloat, :-) > comp.sys.amiga.multimedia > comp.sys.amiga.applications I still think that ".multimedia" is too broad. I still think that ".appliations" should be ".apps". Not because of the long name (I'm the fastest typist I know), but because of the precident that the c.s.mac has set. I won't argue it a second time, but I expect the news.groups people will bring it up. I predict that every .multimedia post will be crossposted to ".applications" and ".software" *or* crossposted to ".hardware" (depending on the software/hardware nature of the question). Is this good or bad? I don't know. I prefer .multimedia, .apps.biz, and .apps.misc. I know that's a big change from the current proposal, so just consider it food for thought. I'd just rather see .apps be a hub. > comp.sys.amiga.market I know the definintion, you know the definition, but dispite that we're going to get a million marketing questions and flames. If I was a new user and want to rant: "C0mm0d0re sh00d do more advertz, d00d!", I'd be tempted to post it (incorrectly) here. Don't you think? I know that ba.market sets a precident for this name, but I see ".classified" and ".forsale" as better names. I won't argue this, but I think the news.groups people will. (and I promise a big "I told you so" message if my prediction comes true :-=) (big smilie with teeth!)) > comp.sys.amiga.emulations Wow! One of my ideas makes it this far! Makes me glad I collected those statistics. Comment: Where would a new user post "What's the best vt100 emulator?"? Temptation would be to post it here. Is this good? Well, I guess a VT100 emulator is software that emulates an actual machine. It could be argued either way. Again, no opinion. > comp.sys.amiga.influence I hate to say it, but the name.space.control.freaks of news.groups are going to say, "this should be called comp.sys.amiga.flame". Now, it can be argued that there is an alt group for this, and it can be argued that since the group will deal with multiple computers, it shouldn't be under just the c.s.a groups. Maybe a comp.flame should be proposed? Again, I am just bring these points up because news.groups will; I have not formed an opinion on this issue. > comp.sys.amiga.datacomm I like it (but I know at least one person will request that it's called "c.s.a.dcom". How about comp.sys.amiga.marco.papa ? :-) > comp.unix.amiga I like it, but I think news.groups will complain that it's a newsgroup for a product that's not out yet. >3) The capture and care of moderators. >-------------------------------------- >In addition, limonce@pilot.njin.net (Tom Limoncelli) said he'd found >another volunteer to moderate, but gave no name. Is your volunteer still >nibbling, Tom? He didn't say that I could publicly announce his name, but he didn't say I couldn't. I'll send him email and ask him to crawl out from under his rock (or keyboard garage). BTW, his initials are MM. :-) >4) Proposals not added. >----------------------- > >> comp.sys.amiga.whine_like_a_baby_but_don't_do_anything_positive_about_it Damn. Some other notes: ----------------- People didn't seem to understand that I was joking about electing a c.s.a net.police person to enforce certain rules. IT'S A JOKE. I won't argue too much about these names, life if too short to take Usenet seriously. I think the people of news.groups will (they must plan on living a long time). I'm merely trying to bring up points that IMHO they will bring up. -Tom -- tlimonce@drew.edu Tom Limoncelli "Freedom and justice tlimonce@drew.uucp +1 201 408 5389 are opposites" tlimonce@drew.Bitnet limonce@pilot.njin.net -me