Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!att!bu.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!mit-eddie!uw-beaver!ubc-cs!van-bc! From: lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: CALL FOR LOCAL DISCUSSION Revision 2: Split the c.s.a group more? Keywords: reply time limited Message-ID: <2175@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca> Date: 29 Oct 90 11:18:35 GMT Lines: 138 Return-Path: To: van-bc!rnews Well, I've been mostly skimming the articles on the subject, not paying a lot of attention, in the hopes that this would lead to a sort of a fuzzy knowledge of what the different groups were for, and this morning, it paid off. I just read a posting that made me react just like someonone new to Usenet, finding some of the titles to be exactly right, while others leave me wonering what they could possibly be about. My comments are a reflection of this state of mind. In , limonce@pilot.njin.net (Tom Limoncelli) writes: > >I THINK KENT HAS DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB, AND THAT THIS >REORGANIZATION IS VERY NEEDED. Chances are, I will vote for >whatever proposal makes to Call For Votes. Anything is better than >the current situation. I agree... lots of effort has been expended, and in a productive manner, by both Kent and the commenters. >In article <1990Oct28.001448.25414@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Kent Paul Dolan) writes: > >> comp.sys.amiga.announce >> comp.sys.amiga.reviews > >Fine. Yup. >> comp.sys.amiga.introduction I like it. Says it perfectly. '.into' would do it as well, and in a shorter form, but no matter. >> comp.sys.amiga.hardware >> comp.sys.amiga.programmer >> comp.sys.amiga.games > >Yea! (If I recall, with the c.s.a.tech vote was running, I posted >".tech is ambiguous... let's go with .programmer". Gloat, gloat, :-) Agreed. >> comp.sys.amiga.multimedia >> comp.sys.amiga.applications > >I still think that ".multimedia" is too broad. >I still think that ".appliations" should be ".apps". Not because >of the long name (I'm the fastest typist I know), but because of >the precident that the c.s.mac has set. I won't argue it a second time, >but I expect the news.groups people will bring it up. Again... says exactly what it means. I like it. >> comp.sys.amiga.market > >I know the definintion, you know the definition, but dispite that >we're going to get a million marketing questions and flames. If I >was a new user and want to rant: "C0mm0d0re sh00d do more advertz, >d00d!", I'd be tempted to post it (incorrectly) here. Don't you >think? I know that ba.market sets a precident for this name, but I >see ".classified" and ".forsale" as better names. I won't argue >this, but I think the news.groups people will. (and I promise a >big "I told you so" message if my prediction comes true :-=) (big >smilie with teeth!)) Strongly agree. Since we don't capitalize group names, I would read this as a 'big M Market', with its attendant connotation of Marketing, as in a Marketing Department; as in that part of CBM that sits around deciding what colour pamphlets they will give out at the next trade show. >> comp.sys.amiga.emulations Neutral. No matter. This probably reflects a personal desire on my part to not ever read anything in the group, no matter what we call it. >> comp.sys.amiga.influence > >I hate to say it, but the name.space.control.freaks of news.groups >are going to say, "this should be called comp.sys.amiga.flame". >Now, it can be argued that there is an alt group for this, and it >can be argued that since the group will deal with multiple >computers, it shouldn't be under just the c.s.a groups. Maybe a >comp.flame should be proposed? >Again, I am just bring these points up because news.groups will; I >have not formed an opinion on this issue. 'influence'? Frankly, I would not have known what sort of thing would be appropriate for a group with this name, were it not for the hint supplied by the suggested ',flame'. I might have guessed that it was meant for postings about (a) convincing CBM to follow a particular path in Marketing (cf.) The Amiga, or (b) What impact the Amiga is having on the industry, in business, in art, etc. >> comp.sys.amiga.datacomm > >I like it (but I know at least one person will request that it's >called "c.s.a.dcom". How about comp.sys.amiga.marco.papa ? :-) :-) >> comp.unix.amiga > >I like it, but I think news.groups will complain that it's a >newsgroup for a product that's not out yet. But it _is_ out. Well, it is if you count the shipments that are sort of more than beta, and less than full release.... the 'selected customer preview', if you will. >>4) Proposals not added. >>----------------------- >> >>> comp.sys.amiga.whine_like_a_baby_but_don't_do_anything_positive_about_it > >Damn. Double Damn. >I won't argue too much about these names, life if too short to take >Usenet seriously. I think the people of news.groups will (they >must plan on living a long time). I'm merely trying to bring up >points that IMHO they will bring up. Same here... The universe will click another notch on its journey regardless of what we call the groups. Please note that these comments are not meant to be anything more than an attempt to look at the proposal from the point of view of someone with a posting looking for a place to live, and with no previously ingrained ideas of namespace suitability. -larry -- It is not possible to both understand and appreciate Intel CPUs. -D.Wolfskill +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | // Larry Phillips | | \X/ lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca -or- uunet!van-bc!lpami!lphillips | | COMPUSERVE: 76703,4322 -or- 76703.4322@compuserve.com | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+