Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!rutgers!cbmvax!daveh From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware Subject: Re: RISC Amiga Keywords: well there's going to be a RISC Mac!! Message-ID: <15497@cbmvax.commodore.com> Date: 31 Oct 90 18:33:19 GMT References: <1156@iceman.jcu.oz> <22914@grebyn.com> Reply-To: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA Lines: 29 In article <22914@grebyn.com> ckp@grebyn.UUCP (Checkpoint Technologies) writes: >In article <1156@iceman.jcu.oz> cpca@iceman.jcu.oz (C Adams) writes: >>So what would we want a RISC Amiga to be based on, 88k? Sparc? i860? MIPS? >Given the Amiga product philosphy of "inexpensive", I'd have to guess >the AMD29K. Then again, Motorola just chopped prices on the 88k family, by a big chunk. I think you can get a basic 88100 + 88200 * 2 for just over $100 now at 16MHz. And there's this IDT version of the MIPS R3000 on the way out, with on-chip cache and MMU, for about $30 in quantity. The obvious advantage of RISC chips from the beginning, more than architectural purity, has been the small size of the fool things. The freakin' MIPS R3000 is about 1/3 the size of the 68030 even with MMU and reasonbly sized caches. Not much bigger or more complex than a 68000. That means at the high end they can move into new chip technologies faster, and at the low end they can drop price faster. Imagine what you could do with a CPU several times the performance of a 68030 for the price of a 68000. It would make one helluva C64 replacement :-). The flaw, of course, is that any new system will run UNIX, which makes the CPU piece of the pie a rather small cost concern when you look at memory, hard disk, casework, monitors, and all the other goodies every UNIX system needs no matter what CPU is inside. >First comes the logo: C H E C K P O I N T T E C H N O L O G I E S / / -- Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Amiga 3000) "The Crew That Never Rests" {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh PLINK: hazy BIX: hazy Standing on the shoulders of giants leaves me cold -REM