Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!jarthur!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!ucsd!ucbvax!RICHTER.MIT.EDU!krowitz From: krowitz@RICHTER.MIT.EDU (David Krowitz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo Subject: Re: sr10.3 report Message-ID: <9011021601.AA06970@richter.mit.edu> Date: 2 Nov 90 16:01:03 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 47 I have just finished trying SR10.3 on my systems ... It doesn't work on a DN560 -- the multi-focus stuff for X seems to have completely broken the DM. The DM cursor will track the mouse, but when you click a mouse button, depress a keyboard key, or try to actually do *any* work ... well, the system seems to think that the input focus is somewhere else. It makes is *real* hard to resize a window. This bug was reported during the beta-test, but HP's written reply was ... "it works on DN3xxx/4xxx and on DN570's". DN570's have a different graphics unit. If they're DN570 turbos, they have different CPU's as well. It doesn't work on diskless DN330's as well. The calendar program doesn't seem to be able to reset the time and date, and the system won't boot because the date always seems to go back to sometime in the year 2015, and the UID generator can't produce correct object UID's with a date that far into the future. This bug was also reported during the beta-test. It seems like HP is getting a jump on its reported plans for dropping support for the sau3, sau3, sau4, sau5, and sau6 machines in SR11. Considering that the C, Fortran, and Pascal compiler have not been able to generate floating point code for the sau4 machines since SR10.0 was introduced (we reported that the -cpu 460 switch will cause the compilers to bomb with fatal internal errors on almost any piece of code), and that this problem has not been fixed in over 2 1/2 years (we finally threw the machines out after 2 1/2 years of their 5 year lifetimes were spent running at 1/3 of their full power due to the lack of floating point support), I would expect to be able to install SR10.3.x sometime around 1992. SR10.3 may fix a lot of users' problems ... but I would procede with caution ... make full backups, do *not* overwrite your SR10.2 AA, test your individual hardware configurations by booting diskless off your SR10.3 AA machine *before* installing SR0.3 on your local disk, and above all, test your application software on *each* of your individual graphics configurations (E vs. F vs. 1280x1024 mono vs. 1024x800 mono) before you leap into SR10.3 This may be Apollos "highest quality release ever", but it is certainly not bug free. As with any new software release, procede with caution at your own risk. -- David Krowitz krowitz@richter.mit.edu (18.83.0.109) krowitz%richter.mit.edu@eddie.mit.edu krowitz%richter.mit.edu@mitvma.bitnet (in order of decreasing preference)