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From: tmaster@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Master)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Apple /// & profile
Keywords: apple /// profile
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Date: 3 Nov 90 02:47:08 GMT
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In article <323@flight.UUCP> george@flight.UUCP (George Rachor ) writes:
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>> You should be able to get a Profile Card /// (don't forget the driver!)
>> from a dealer for a reasonable amount.

 A friend of mine worked at an apple dealer at one time when I had
a profile with an apple // interface card I wanted to use on my apple ///.
The price for the apple /// card was around $100 (this was a few years ago.)
You can decide if that is reasonable.  Assuming there are still cards to
be gotten.  I don't think apple is really into producing those any more.

>I will try to get back to those who mailed replies.  Anybody want to start
>an apple /// mailing list?(What am I saying?)
>
>  Does apple ][ emualation mode emulate a ][+ or ][e?  Am I limited to dos3.3
>while in ][e emulation mode?  Is the sos environment worth getting into?
>
>George Rachor Jr.
>george@flight.hf.intel.com

 The emulation disk emulates a 48k apple ][ or ][+ (there is an option in
the program that allows you to select integer/applesoft basic in 'rom',
which is actually write protected RAM.).  In emulation, it is as you
have a ][ or ][+ - uppercase only, 40 cols only, etc.  There are some
other versions around that give you lowercase and the 64k is also
write, which means you can overwrite your rom.

 John Jeppson, in fact, wrote some articles for Softalk many years ago
on making a hybrid emulation mode.  With this, you had access to some
additional features like the bank switching, 80 col screen controls and
the clock speed..  There was also a board produced (the ///+//e board I
think) that would give you a //e in emulation mode.  Unfortunately, the
cost of that board was around $300-400, making it more affordable to by
a //e or //c used.

 As for the SOS enivorment, I consider it worthwhile.  I have written
drivers so I can use the Rev C scsi card with it (partioning still needs
to be done on a //e, as I didn't want to figure that out (and it wasn't
really necessary.)  There is also a desktop and program selector.  The
program selector is similiar to prosel, and the desktop allows you to
have a few handy programs.  Both of these are commercial programs available
from On Three for around $50 each I believe (however, the Desktop has
additional modules that cost more..)  I have written a few modules myself,
including a type, catalog, and term program (the term program, which does
a reasonable vt200 emulationn, can also be run standalone.)

 How serious to get into SOS also depends on what you plan to be doing
with your apple ///...

 How many apple ///'s are out there?  It would be interesting to see
what everyone has done.  If other ///'s are interested, I will give out
the code to my term program, desktop modules, and the scsi driver. (I
also wrote one for a parallel interface card 'Printerface was the name
of the card.)  Send me mail if you want these - just be warned that I
haven't documented these programs alot.

	The Master
	tmaster@ucscb.ucsc.edu