Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!hplabs!hpfcso!rrd From: rrd@hpfcso.HP.COM (Ray Depew) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: The Quick ST II Challenge vs. Usenet? Message-ID: <7340018@hpfcso.HP.COM> Date: 29 Oct 90 19:20:52 GMT References: <1990Oct22.190053.21874@wam.umd.edu> Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA Lines: 46 Chris, > There is a difference between discussion [of] commercial products and > a software author plugging his wares on the net. Not much. When you grow up and graduate and your employer sends you to Conferences, Symposia and Trade Shows, you will have to learn for yourself to tell the difference between a "technical presentation" and a "sales job". Right now, you can go down to the engineering library and check out a back issue of [insert journal name here] to get some practice. Half of the articles are "technical articles" and the other half are "sales jobs," and you can't tell the difference by the title or the color of the page. We in the industry don't particularly mind listening to or reading a "sales job." There's some cool stuff out there, and how else are we going to find out about it? If you want to sell a product, you're going to need to advertise. "Technical presentations" and "technical papers" are a good way to do it. And you don't have to pay for the space! We just learn to recognize the sales job up front, and then wear our BS-blockers for the remainder of the article or presentation. While you're in the trade journals, read the "Tech Notes" or "New Developments" section. There are some reviews of new products in there, that aren't really reviews. They are press releases, written by the manufacturer or a hired pen, artfully crafted to sound like a review. Some of them don't even mention the manufacturer's name, or they use the hired pen's name to make the review sound legitimate. The journals print them verbatim. They don't review the products to check the text's accuracy. Whether Darek crows about his product or whether someone else does, it doesn't make any difference. For all you know, Darek gave what's-his-name a free copy of QSTII and asked him to comment on it on the net. (Not saying that he did, mind you...) That's not illegal or unethical. That's business. You may not like the way it looks, from your side of the fence, but I'd be willing to bet my ST that within 10 years you'll see it differently. No flames intended in any of the above. Please don't go looking for any. Regards Ray Depew IC's by Bill and Dave rrd@hpfitst1.hp.com ----------