Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!maverick.ksu.ksu.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!skl From: skl@odin.math.uiuc.edu (Soren Lundsgaard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec Subject: Re: 8800 crashing way too often Message-ID: Date: 2 Nov 90 01:37:27 GMT References: <1908@shodha.enet.dec.com> Sender: news@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (News) Followup-To: comp.sys.dec Organization: /usr/uiucmath/users/skl/.organization Lines: 20 In-Reply-To: alan@shodha.enet.dec.com's message of 31 Oct 90 15:41:12 GMT this reminds me of a story that I hear where I used to work. said company had a vax 11/780, pretty normal setup, and was running 4.1 bsd. This machine started crashing, often. DEC comes in, replaces something, still crashes. this happens for a long time, and of course, DEC blames 4.1 for the problem, must be doing something wrong. please excuse me but the details are sketchy. they endup replacing everything, practically, except the backplane, or something like that. try running VMS over the weekends with all the exersizers going (maybe an exageration, but they did try VMS out.) Now as everyone knows, aps and company worked quite closely with berkeley porting unix to the vaxes, probably one of the reasons why it was so succesful. turns out, part of the code in the system relied on a certain specification in the hardware, to a closer tolerance than VMS. finally fixed it, bsd 4.1 exonerated. please write if you would like the address of people who can tell you more exact details about this. and get this stuff fixed. there is no excuse for letting DEC drag their feet on this stuff. ask for a replacement 8800. skl.