Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!samsung!usc!sdd.hp.com!ucsd!ucbvax!EMUNIX.EMICH.EDU!stretch From: stretch@EMUNIX.EMICH.EDU (Brian Stretch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware Subject: TSENG 4000 Cards Message-ID: <9010301701.AA07975@emunix.emich.edu> Date: 30 Oct 90 17:01:56 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Lines: 42 #1 Rule when picking out a VGA card: Don't settle for anything less than a TSENG4000-based card. There is no reason to. Now, as for which card to get.. the STB PowerGraph seems to provide the most bang for the buck (I have one, bought from Softwarehouse). Just make sure you get the PowerGRAPH and not the cheaper PowerVIEW.. both are TSENG4000's, but the View card will only accept 512K (it uses a slower TSENG4000 chip). Last I knew, the PowerGraph's were $180 for the 256K card.. Softwarehouse wants $9/chip for 256Kx4's, you can get 256Kx4-80ns chips for half that (or less) from various chip merchants. Get 8 256Kx4's if you go that route.. STB includes 100ns chips, and you might as well have all 80's (what the hell, $10 more, even tho I doubt it makes a performence diff). If you want all-out speed, go with the Diamond SpeedStar. It is also a TSENG4000 card, but Diamond did some really nice stuff with it.. they aren't telling what (something about buffering?), but it's a good 30% faster than other standard TSENG4000 cards (like the PowerGraph). It'll cost you closer to $300.. that may or may not be worth it for you. Worth a look if you can find a place selling them (or can get your dealer to order one). Sorry, don't have Diamond's phone # in front of me right now.. Something else about the STB card.. STB now has a VESA-compatible BIOS. It's either done or coming RSN (think it's done).. there are already VESA- compatible GIF viewers out there (Vuimg 2.62 for one), no doubt more programs are coming soon. Imagine a uniform protocol all the way up to 1280x1024x256.. anyhow, STB sends out BIOS upgrades for FREE (just give them a reason, ie you have a VESA-supporting program you want to use). Also, there's a new chip ("Sierra"?) coming out RSN for the TSENG4000 boards that allow 32,000 color screens.. ie 640x480x32K.. and this chip is socketed on the PowerGraph (STB planned for it). Proper BIOS support is being worked on. I do not know what Diamond is doing to support this chip. (The upgrade is in the two-digit price range.. don't know enough specifics I'm afriad, but I'm going to get the upgrade ASAP). Anyhow.. STB puts out a great card and gives very good customer support. Diamond makes the fastest card overall.. wish I had more info on them. ONE THING TO NOTE: To get the most performence out of these cards, you need a 286/386/486 with a fast 16-bit bus.. you might have to tweek the I/O bus wait states. It'll still be faster than anything else short of a Hercules Graphics Station tho. ---Brian Stretch (stretch@emunix.emich.edu)