Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!wuarchive!udel!rochester!pt.cs.cmu.edu!gandalf.cs.cmu.edu!lindsay From: lindsay@gandalf.cs.cmu.edu (Donald Lindsay) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m88k Subject: Crystal Balls Message-ID: <10947@pt.cs.cmu.edu> Date: 1 Nov 90 04:11:44 GMT References: <1990Oct14.003906.26373@wolves.uucp> <1536@ftc.framentec.fr> <1990Oct19.120218.9450@canterbury.ac.nz> <656404917.9119@proa.sv.dg.com> <1095@dg.dg.com> <42589@mips.mips.COM> Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, CS/RI Lines: 34 In article <42589@mips.mips.COM> mash@mips.COM (John Mashey) writes: >In 1986 Motorola presentations,... >The foils also say (exact quote): >1991 - GAAS INTEGER UNIT (>50 MIPS)" Damn fine left-handed guessing! In 1991, I expect several players to be touting numbers bigger than 50. (IBM already quotes 41, after all.) The fact that the chips will be CMOS, not GaAs, is the left-handed part. I should do so well, five years out. >In 1986 Motorola presentations, the 78000 (previous number of 88000) had >the following schedule: > Production (200-500 sets) April 88 >... but it was about 3Q89 >before many production chips were shipped... Five quarters late, on a four-year projection. Middling. >Vendors often have plans they believe in, and things just >don't work that way, and t his happens to almost everybody... Ah, not to be mean about it, but isn't the R4000 overdue? And that 85 MHz R6000? Come to think about it: does anyone remember ANY chip that came in early? Recently, I've noticed a bit more cut-and-thrust than usual: some of the posts (particularly on comp.sys.m88k) have had a distinct "your chip wears army boots!" flavor. We're due for (another) interesting year on comp.arch, with some major announcements due. I'd learn a lot more about these almost-wonderful products from critical analysis than from criticism. Just a thought. -- Don D.C.Lindsay