Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!NIC.GAC.EDU!scott From: scott@NIC.GAC.EDU Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: 4 MBytes Simms Message-ID: <9010290610.AA01815@mcs-server.gac.edu> Date: 29 Oct 90 06:10:54 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Lines: 39 treed@odie.UUCP (Timothy Reed) writes: Sorry. Normal "low profile" simms do not - I repeat - do not fit in a cube. Toshiba chips are a necessary ingredient, but the simm manufacturer must arrange them properly to make physically smaller board. Buy off the shelf low profile simms and prepare to be humiliated by tech support when you get stuck with >$1,000 of boards that don't fit. Yes, it is possible to take the cube apart, change some stuff, and put it together again, but it will put your system totally out of spec and unsupportable - i.e. the people you bought your cube from will find out that you made h/w mods, and laugh heartily you ask for support under your warrantee. (If you really want guaranteed-beyond-hardware-upgrades, fully supportable, etc., RAM, buy from the vendor.) Hmm. I've also heard that once you're past the little ribs, or whatever, at the back of the cube, there aren't any problems. So, basically, you sort of force stuff . . . Hmm. I don't want to do that. Then again, I don't want a regular cube. The question of the day is: Did NeXT give us a little clearance in the NeXTStation? I certainly would like to grab 16M for $800-$850 (at best prices), rather than $1100. Assuming standard reductions for the two to four months I expect before getting one (I haven't even ordered it, yet), I'd be looking at something in the $650-$700 range, which is ++good. Much lower than that and I could be pushed to go for the full 32M! It would also be nice if the new cubes allowed those extra 2 or 4 mm for clearance, so that they don't require the (generally) more expensive very-low-profile chips. Such mods are well within NeXT's reach. Besides the fact that the 16M chips which are coming along will probably need just a teeny bit more, also . . . scott hess scott@gac.edu Independent NeXT Developer (Stuart) NeXT Campus Consultant (Not much, really) GAC Undergrad (Horrid. Simply Horrid. I mean the work!)