Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!apple!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!wuarchive!mit-eddie!bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard!sunic!news.funet.fi!hydra!hylka!jalkio From: jalkio@cc.helsinki.fi Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Lisp on NeXT? Message-ID: <3797.272f0d38@cc.helsinki.fi> Date: 31 Oct 90 17:43:19 GMT References: <275@autodesk.UUCP> Distribution: comp Organization: University of Helsinki Lines: 35 In article , anderson@sapir.cog.jhu.edu (Stephen R. Anderson) writes: > I've gotten several replies to my inquiry about ACL on NeXT machines, > so I thought I ought to post a summary of what I (think I) know at > this point. > > No one seems to have any explanation of why ACL was unbundled from the > new release. Or at least no one has mentioned one (apart from the > obvious suggestion that someone decided it was too much for their > company - whether NeXT or Granz is unclear) to give away. > > Franz ACL has no corporate connection with Macintosh ACL, currently > distributed by APDA (bought from Coral). > > Franz ACL 4.0 will include full CLOS support. It will be available any > day now for Suns, and "will *definitely* be available for the NeXT." > (quote from someone at Franz, no timetable specified). On the other > hand, contrary to what several people told me, this will NOT be > available free on NeXTs, educational or otherwise. The only product > that educational users still get free but which is unbudled for others > is Mathematica. ACL will cost $1500, with 50% academic discount. (some of the stuff deleted) Oh well. If that $1500 really is the ACADEMIC price, I am really sad. How many students actually can afford that kind of price (half of a slab!)? Are there any reasonable Lisp options on NeXT? This information slows down my enthusiasm about getting a NeXTstation quite much. I thought I could get a decent Lisp for free... (or at least for a few hundred bucks). > > > Steve Anderson Jouni Alkio, Univ. of Helsinki, Finland