Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!noose.ecn.purdue.edu!iuvax!att!cbnewsj!cbnewsk!linwood From: linwood@cbnewsk.att.com (linwood.d.johnson) Newsgroups: comp.unix.programmer Subject: Re: Why use U* over VMS Summary: Stone Age VMS Keywords: Editors Old Present Message-ID: <1990Oct31.011215.23303@cbnewsk.att.com> Date: 31 Oct 90 01:12:15 GMT References: <+SP6XL@xds13.ferranti.com> <8354@tekgvs.LABS.TEK.COM> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 37 In article <8354@tekgvs.LABS.TEK.COM>, terryl@sail.LABS.TEK.COM writes: > > Oh yeah. VMS has some great editors also. [the rest deleted for the sake of brevity] [but the rest repeated to make a point] > > > Yeah, a stupid (And I do mean STUPID) standard editor that forces one > to have line numbers while one is editing a file, and have said line numbers > stay static even if one is adding/deleting lines, and those line added MUST > not be out of the range of line numbers one is adding between, and having > such stupid default line numbers such that one could add at MOST one line > between two lines, and then forcibly going back into command mode (instead > of input line mode), and forcing the user to MANUALLY renumber all of the lines > in the d*mn file??? You call that a great editor??? Boy, I thought I had a > warped view of the world..... > > (To be fair, this was MANY, MANY moons ago on a VMS 1.6 system, if memory > serves me correctly, but gads how I hated EDIT!!! Luckily, it was somewhat > easy to change all of the default numbering schemes, but there was ABSOLUTELY > no way to defeat the line numbering scheme while in the editor, and every so > often you would find yourself forcibly thrown out of line input mode back into > command mode, where the only thing you could really do is a command to cause > all of the lines in the file to be renumbered....) Boy, I'm glad you were fair about it!!! Damn, I always wondered what VMS was like in the STONE AGE. I was talikng about a later, much later version than 1.6. Like, somewhere close to the present. Maybe one should look at the present before hollering about how hard it was in the past. -- +===================================================================+ | Linwood D. Johnson | linwood@ihlpf.att.com | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Disclaimer: Opinions expressed here are mine and mine only. |