Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!yale!bunker!hcap!hnews!260!204!Ann.Parsons From: Ann.Parsons@f204.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Ann Parsons) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: Re: NCF Disabled Contest Message-ID: <15253@bunker.UUCP> Date: 30 Oct 90 04:16:41 GMT Sender: wtm@bunker.UUCP Reply-To: Ann.Parsons@f204.n260.z1.fidonet.org Distribution: misc Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/204 - Flower City Central, Chili NY Lines: 77 Approved: wtm@bunker.UUCP Index Number: 11371 Hi James, >"I can see your point. Actually 50,000 is not all that much and >"won't allow any of the things you suggest. Well, that's my point, don't ya see, if they'd apply the funds to making better programs...... >"As I said I can see your point. However, I don't thinkwe should >"come down so hard on them. It was an idea in which I honest >"believe their hearts were in the right place. It's just too bad if >"they did not take time to check on how disabled people ourselves >"viewed the concept as a group. Well, you see that is again what I meant in the previous message when I talked about misdirection and misinformation. Having "good intentions" is no excuse for perseverating a mistake. As an educator you know that one of the things they watch for in dealing with emotionally disturbed children is perseveration. Well, this kind of assinine behavior on the part of an organization who or maybe it's which should know better leads me to question their collective emotional stability. This is not the first of this kind of mistake and will probably not be the last. >"For my part, as a contest buff, I >"saw no problem with it. For your part, I think you see it as an >"affront to disabled people's dignity and a gross misdirections of >"a substantial amount of funds. Now, we stand a rather opposite >"ends in our overall view onthis ( as does Vixen who sides with >"you), but we are not the majority of the disabled. Still, the >"views of the disabled might have been consulted before the contest >"began. It would prove interesting to see what the result would >"have been. Thanks, glad you see our point, James. >"I respect your views and Vixen's as well ( how can you not?). But >"I insist that the sponsors meant not a bit of harm to us whenthey >"came up with this idea. There will always be people who either >"like or dislike an idea for a variety of reasons. I guess the >"thing to do then would be for disagreeing persons to send NCF a >"note on their views and in additionnot bother to enter the contest. Right, be happy to do so. What's there address again? >"I myself, would not mind 50,000. I could certainly use it to >"attend the Ph.D. program of my choice so I can realize my goal of >"becoming a superintendent of a deaf school and helping to make >"real changes that benefit deaf kids educationally. I'd like >"nothing more than to work with a faculty and staff at forming a >"model program that addresses thereal needs of the deaf without all >"that oral/aural focused bagagge that has not progressed deaf >"education at all inthe last 200 years. How interesting that you want to be a superintendant. What would you like to see done with the communication methods of deaf kids? I live in the same town with the Rochester School for the Deaf. I understand that they are orally based in their views. Speaking as an outsider, I would think that learning as many means of communication possible would be the way to go with each kid. But, of course you would want to make each kid's program different because each kid is different. I think one should consider the kid's wants too, if he/she is able to make them known. Maybe there's a deaf kid out there weho only wants to learn sign. There may be another who wants to learn only speech/oral/aural communication. I dunnow. What do you think? >"Ok, Ann. Your turn. But after this, I am going to talk to you >"about morepleasant things. I enjoy your electronic company too >"much to spedn more thime on this contest subject anymore. :-) How right you are. Take care, see you on-line. Ann P. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!260!204!Ann.Parsons Internet: Ann.Parsons@f204.n260.z1.fidonet.org