Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!mit-eddie!mintaka!yale!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!89!David.Andrews From: David.Andrews@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (David Andrews) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: Re: Audible traffic lights Message-ID: <15287@bunker.UUCP> Date: 31 Oct 90 03:04:01 GMT Sender: wtm@bunker.UUCP Reply-To: David.Andrews@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org Distribution: misc Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA Lines: 35 Approved: wtm@bunker.UUCP Index Number: 11405 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] DS>> Certainly not!! Why do you feel we even need to have those DS>> audible traffic lights. They have been shown to pose a risk to DS>> the blind traveller because they can cause a distraction to the DS>> normal orientation and mobility skills used by a blind person DS>> to cross those streets. 73 MW> Apparently you don't cross light controlled intersections which MW> allow for right turns on red. Every morning I cross an MW> extremely busy intersection which allows right turns on red and MW> if I didn't have enough residual vision to spot the walk sign, MW> there's no way I would even attempt that crossing alone. MW> You'll have to show me the statistics that prove audible cues MW> from traffic lights detract from the normal O and M skills of a MW> blind person. The way totally blind people cross intersections with right on red laws is by listening for right turning traffic. I am totally blind, corss such intersections daily, and have taught others to use them at our state Orientation Center. However, it would be impossible to do so with an audible traffic light putting up a racket. Further, the presence of such a device may lull a less skilled traveler into a false sense of security. David Andrews ... Your Sound Alternative -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!89!David.Andrews Internet: David.Andrews@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org