Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!caen!ox.com!yale!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!89.0!Ted.Young From: Ted.Young@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Ted Young) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: NFB Message-ID: <15337@bunker.UUCP> Date: 2 Nov 90 04:00:07 GMT Sender: wtm@bunker.UUCP Reply-To: Ted.Young@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org Distribution: misc Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA Lines: 89 Approved: wtm@bunker.UUCP Index Number: 11454 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] In a message Willie stated: " What really interests me about your message, however, is the "the Federation doesn't like them" statement. For some reason, I notice that a few of you keep leaving comments like that, and it sort of sounds like putting the cart before the horse to me! I mean, it appears like you are basing your own opinion upon what the NFB says it should be rather than vice-versa." OK, Willie, I have tried to stay out of this one because it is clear that I am outnumbered here and I believe that those who have an irrational dislike of the NFB will not be swayed anyway. However, as an avid Federationist I need to say somethings. 1. I have seen a lot of comments which indicate that the NFB philosophy is great but either the leadership or the people in general are bad. That statement doesn't make any sense to me, the leadership, is the leadership because either it adheres to the philosophy of the people or because it can persuade the people to its point of view. Yes, the NFB has elections. Further, those who acknowledge that the NFB has brought about positive change for blind people and, even most people who say they don't like us will acknowledge this, need to remember that that positive change didn't occur magically. It occurred from hours of hard work by dedicated people. It occurred by tactics that may seem militant to some but which are necessary if one is to evoke real change. I know our leaders personally and can assure you that Saturdays and Sundays when many people are sitting around scratching whatever, picking their noses, etc., our leadership is giving up its time to improve conditions. Let me assure you that I have given up many a good Penn State football game for the cause, many a not-so-good Eagles game, and more than a few hours I would like to be spending on hobbies which are too numerous to mention. 2. Sihnce the philosophy of the organization is formed at conventions which are, regardless of popular opinion, democratic, and since many matters are discussed in full, it is logical that when that vote is taken it becomes an NFB position. Further, since we are a volunteer organization and receive no pay for the hours of work we do, it is logical that our motivation needs to be a firm belief in the philosophy, and the reward of seeing conditions improve as that philosophy is realized. It is also logical that some people will disagree with that philosophy and, as philosophy is what should keep one in any organization, those people will probably leave. No, not everybody in the NFB believes in all policies to the same degree, but probably most of us believe in most of the policies or we wouldn't be there. I have never understood how people can continue to belong to a Church when they disagree with many of its major tenets. By the way, I believe that all blind people, whether they belong to us or not and whether they realize it or not, have benefited from our efforts. 3. One other comment that I have heard a lot is that we are radical. I disagree. Politically I am a conservative, but I find no conflict with that position and standing on a picket line if necessary to prevent a blind person from being discriminated against on a job, get a restaurant to comply with dog guide laws, etc. Radical would be to demand more than equal opportunity and treatment, and it is quite consistent with conservatism to believe that all people should have equal treatment and opportunity. Let me stop here to accommodate the need to stay within message lenths. TedIt is also logical that some people will disagree with that philosophy and, as philosophy is what should keep one in any organization, those people will probably leave. No, not everybody in the NFB believes in all policies to the same degree, but probably most of us believe in most of the policies or we wouldn't be there. I have never understood how people can continue to belong to a Church when they disagree with many of its major tenets. By the way, I believe that all blind people, whether they belong to us or not and whether they realize it or not, have benefited from our efforts. 3. One other comment that I have heard a lot is that we are radical. I disagree. Politically I am a conservative, but I find no conflict with that position and standing on a picket line if necessary to prevent a blind person from being discriminated against on a job, get a restaurant to comply with dog guide laws, etc. Radical would be to demand more than equal opportunity and treatment, and it is quite consistent with conservatism to believe that all people should have equal treatment and opportunity. Let me stop here to accommodate the need to stay within message lenths. Ted -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!89.0!Ted.Young Internet: Ted.Young@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org