Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!ox.com!yale!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!89!Maggi.Weslager From: Maggi.Weslager@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Maggi Weslager) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: Re: Audible traffic lights Message-ID: <15368@bunker.UUCP> Date: 2 Nov 90 04:53:32 GMT Sender: news@bunker.UUCP Reply-To: Maggi.Weslager@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org Distribution: misc Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA Lines: 32 Approved: wtm@bunker.UUCP Index Number: 11467 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] DA> Maggie, You would still have to listen to traffic, for cars DA> turning right on red etc. Secondly, when an audible traffic DA> light makes its noise, it is telling you it is safe to cross, DA> but which way. Should you cross this street or that street? DA> So, either way, you need to listen to traffic flow. David The audible traffic lights which I have experienced have also been exclusive traffic lights, meaning, all traffic stops and the pedestrian has the exclusive right of way. If an intersection did not have an exclusive light, wouldn't the activation buttons for the traffic light indicate to a sighted as well as a blind person which street was safe to cross? I detect in your mobility messages a strong bias toward cane use. I find it quite disheartening to observe such an opinion coming from a person who claims to have instructed blind individuals in the art of mobility. Have you ever entertained the thought of getting a guide dog? Prior to getting my dog two years ago, I felt quite satisfied using a cane. When my husband Larry fell ill with kidney failure, it was up to me to maintain his guide dog. I took Yardley, Larry's dog, around the neighborhood a couple of times, not a recommended behavior for an untrained dog user, but nonetheless, it turned out to be my deciding factor to get myself one of those beasts. Don't knock it 'til you've tried it! -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!89!Maggi.Weslager Internet: Maggi.Weslager@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org