Xref: utzoo sci.chem:2280 sci.bio:3728 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!midway!quads.uchicago.edu!chi9 From: chi9@quads.uchicago.edu (Lucius Chiaraviglio) Newsgroups: sci.chem,sci.bio Subject: Re: osmosis - how is it caused? Summary: Actually, wouldn't salts cause activity reductions of polar solvents? Keywords: osmosis Message-ID: <1990Oct27.035951.27558@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: 27 Oct 90 03:59:51 GMT References: <1990Oct22.110253.2277@newcastle.ac.uk> <4137@kitty.UUCP> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: Department of Biology at University of Chicago Lines: 20 In article <4137@kitty.UUCP> larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman) writes: >In article <1990Oct22.110253.2277@newcastle.ac.uk>, >william@lorien.newcastle.ac.uk (William Coyne) writes: >> Does it have something to do with the salt forming temporary weak bonds >> with the water molecules, so on the side of the membrane with the higher >> concentration fewer water molecules will be free to cross the membrane. > > No. It is important to understand that osmosis is a colligative >property of solutions in that the determining factors pertain solely to >the number of molecules of solute in solvent (and thermodyamic factors), >and are *independent* of actual chemical composition. I know what you're saying -- that hydration of ions is not required to achieve osmotic effects -- but wouldn't charge-dipole interactions between ions and water molecules enhance the osmotic effects by lowering the concentration of free water to an extent beyond what they could accomplish by simple displacement? -- | Lucius Chiaraviglio | Internet: chi9@midway.uchicago.edu