Xref: utzoo sci.bio:3778 sci.chem:2350 sci.physics:15153 sci.misc:4519 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uupsi!sunic!kullmar!pkmab!ske From: ske@pkmab.se (Kristoffer Eriksson) Newsgroups: sci.bio,sci.chem,sci.physics,sci.misc Subject: Re: Osmosis - the cause at the molecular level. Message-ID: <4396@pkmab.se> Date: 31 Oct 90 22:14:29 GMT References: <1990Oct28.115303.7221@newcastle.ac.uk> Organization: Peridot Konsult i Mellansverige AB, Oerebro, Sweden Lines: 42 In article <1990Oct28.115303.7221@newcastle.ac.uk> W.P.Coyne@newcastle.ac.uk writes: > | * | |^^^^^^^* | > |^^^^^^^^*^^^^^^^^| | * | > | * | | *^^^^^^^^| > | high * lo | |medium * medium | > | * | | * | > ------------------ ---------------- > BEFORE AFTER > >What mechanism is allowing the salt to cause the water to build >up on left hand side? The way I remember it, the key to this is that the salt ions can't pass through the membrane, only the water can. The solutions on both sides of the membrane tend to even out their respective concentrations, and the only way that can be done is by raising the amount of water on the side with the higher salt concentration, and vice versa, since the amount of salt can't be changed. Why does the concentrations tend to even out? There will always be a lot of water molecules that are passing through the membrane in both directions, since nothing is stopping them from doing so. However, on the side with higher salt concentration, there will be fewer water molecules (and more salt ions) adjacent to a given membrane surface area, and therefore a slightly lower flow of water from that side to the other than in the other direction. >Would the container need to be very large before gravity would >prevent the water on left hand side rising noticeably. If the water remaind and equal levels, gravity would also act equally on both sides, and would therefore not stop the sides from differentiating. I suppose that if one of the sides would rise considerably above the other side, it could be compressed enough by gravity to make the number of water molecules to a given surface area on both sides equal slightly before the concentrations become equal. (The water pressures would become equal without the solution concentrations being equal.) -- Kristoffer Eriksson, Peridot Konsult AB, Hagagatan 6, S-703 40 Oerebro, Sweden Phone: +46 19-13 03 60 ! e-mail: ske@pkmab.se Fax: +46 19-11 51 03 ! or ...!{uunet,mcsun}!sunic.sunet.se!kullmar!pkmab!ske