Xref: utzoo sci.bio:3795 soc.men:23635 soc.women:29698 soc.singles:72418 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!mit-eddie!uw-beaver!zephyr.ens.tek.com!videovax!chrish From: chrish@videovax.tv.tek.com (Chris Hawes) Newsgroups: sci.bio,soc.men,soc.women,soc.singles Subject: Re: Are Humans Naturally Monogamous? Keywords: drives : sex love monogamy Message-ID: <6120@videovax.tv.tek.com> Date: 2 Nov 90 00:40:26 GMT References: <1990Oct24.175532.9407@pmafire.UUCP> <1990Oct26.182603.342@athena.mit.edu> <846@tsnews.Convergent.COM> Reply-To: chrish@videovax.tv.tek.com (Chris Hawes) Followup-To: sci.bio Organization: Tektronix TV Measurement Systems, Beaverton OR Lines: 26 >Much of this also seems to apply to the larger apes. Gorilla or >chimpanzee infants raised without the opportunity to observe the >social, grooming mating and dominance behaviours of their elders >rarely mate successfully and never achieve dominance of any sort >if they are introduced to a tribe at a later time, and in fact >are usually (always?) outcast by the rest in an unconfined >setting. I don't have any references here in my cube, but if >there's interest, I or someone who studies primate behaviour >less informally can dig them up. I find that very interesting and am wondering what the implications are for us humans. How much less inhibited would humans be if they were raised in an environment where the parents were "observed" grooming/mating by their offspring? Or would that be traumatic to human children? In my home, not only did I never observe my elders mating, I was presented one of those stork type fairy tales where babies are not the result of anything I would ever grow up to have control of. What are the biological advantages to such biological ignorance being part of the culture which is guided by biological evolotion? Interesting thought- the part ignorance plays in the "advancement" of the species. Ah, the secret to understanding how Dan Quayle could be vice-president is now revealed to me. chris