Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!umich!yale!think.com!mck-csc!jw From: jw@mck-csc.mckinsey.com (Jeffrey Weiss) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: Universal IR Remote Receiver Message-ID: <1990Oct30.224524.21962@mck-csc.mckinsey.com> Date: 30 Oct 90 22:45:24 GMT References: <10955@goofy.Apple.COM> <15934@hydra.gatech.EDU> Reply-To: jw@mck-csc (Jeffrey Weiss) Organization: McKinsey & Company, Inc., Cambridge, MA Lines: 25 In article <15934@hydra.gatech.EDU> byron@cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff) writes: >In article <10955@goofy.Apple.COM> hunter@apple.com (Kurt Hunter) writes: >-Does anyone know of a discrete or integrated amplifier circuit that can be >-used to increase the signal of an IR detector diode while preserving all >-the IR signal data? ... > >I refer you to the March 1987 issue of BYTE magazine pg. 113. Steve Ciarcia >Has a design for a trainable master remote controller. Instead of trying >to do the carrier frequency and pulse detection in analog he samples the >IR signal at a 1 Mhz rate and uses a microcontroller to examine the sample >for the carrier and pulse lengths.... > >He uses a simple LM311 comparator circuit to boost the signal and then >shifts the data into a sift register at 1 Mhz.... You will have a problem if you use this method. Ciarcia's application requires that the receiver be about one inch from the transmitter; it's used to train a multi-remote. For any reasonable distance, the photo diode or transistor puts out precious little signal! The 311 will not do the trick, a very highly sensitive and low noise pre-amp is required....and as the original poster identified, commercially available receivers-in-the-can seem to all include an assumption of a ~40KHz carrier, and remove this carrier for you. -- jw@mckinsey.com (...mit-eddie!mck-csc!jw) Jeffrey Weiss