Xref: utzoo sci.electronics:15303 rec.ham-radio:26364 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!aplcen!stda.jhuapl.edu!mjj From: mjj@stda.jhuapl.edu (Marshall Jose) Newsgroups: sci.electronics,rec.ham-radio Subject: A question about a PLL synth loop filter Message-ID: <1990Oct31.210242.20619@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> Date: 31 Oct 90 21:02:42 GMT Sender: news@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (USENET News System) Reply-To: @aplvax.jhuapl.edu:mjj@stda.jhuapl.edu (Marshall Jose) Distribution: usa Organization: The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory Lines: 39 I have been trying to understand a passive loop filter I have twice seen used in ham radio construction articles. It looks like this: O---VVVVV----+-------+------O R1 | | | > | > R2 | > --- | --- C1 | | | | --- | --- C2 | | O------------+-------+------O I have been having a great deal of trouble trying to factor out at least one zero in the denominator of H(s) = F(s)G(s)/[1 + F(s)G(s)], where F(s) = K/s and G(s) = response of above filter. I get something like C(as + 1) H(s) = --------------------- 3 2 s + ps + qs + r where p, q, & r are expressions involving R1, R2, C1, and C2. It looks like it ought to be a good performer as long as I could move the poles to the right place. When I try to cheat and have an expression manipulator (such as Mathematica) find the roots, I (deservedly) get an enormous, intuitively opaque result. Has anybody out there dealt with this at the design level, or at least seen a reference to it? The Egan, Manassewitz, and Gardner books seem not to address it, but I haven't checked the journals yet. Thanks in advance, Marshall Jose WA3VPZ mjj%stda@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu || ...mimsy!aplcen!aplvax!mjj