Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!usc!ucsd!pacbell.com!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: roland@geronimo.pcs.com (Roland Rambau) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Bundeswehr flying MIG-29 Message-ID: <1990Oct29.030456.7771@cbnews.att.com> Date: 29 Oct 90 03:04:56 GMT References: <1990Oct17.010915.12950@cbnews.att.com> <1990Oct19.032427.12376@cbnews.att.com> <1990Oct22.040344.18870@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 37 Approved: military@att.att.com From: roland@geronimo.pcs.com (Roland Rambau) convex!cash@uunet.UU.NET (Peter Cash) writes: >In article <1990Oct19.032427.12376@cbnews.att.com> ab3o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Allan Bourdius) writes: >>From: Allan Bourdius >>>last week we had in our local newspaper 'Die Rheinpfalz' a foto of a >>>MIG-29 with Bundeswehr-signs. >>Don't you mean the Luftwaffe? The Bundeswehr is the Army, not the Air Force. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >No, I don't think so. The Luftwaffe ignominiously shut down operations >about 50 years ago.I'm not sure of the organizational details, but I >believe that the Bundeswehr includes the present German air force. Sorry, You are both ( partially ) wrong: - "Luftwaffe" ( litterally: "air weapon" ) is still the current name of the german air force - "Bundeswehr" ( lit. "federal defense" ) is the current inclusive name for all german armed forces, which includes 'Heer', 'Marine' and 'Luftwaffe' - you probably confused Luftwaffe with the term "Wehrmacht" ( lit. "defense force" ) which was the name of the german army before 1945. This term is considered incorrect for todays military forces. ( and, no, sorry, I don't know ( and probably nobody knows yet ) what to do with the left over soviet military equipment in the long run; the Bundeswehr got it, but it seems they don't want it :-) Roland Rambau rra@cochise.pcs.com, {unido|pyramid}!pcsbst!rra, 2:507/414.2.fidonet