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From: judy@altair.la.locus.com (Judy Leedom Tyrer)
Newsgroups: soc.feminism
Subject: Re: Feminism's ill effects on men?
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Date: 26 Oct 90 01:47:55 GMT
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In article <20109001:45:10RA04@lehigh.bitnet> RA04@Lehigh.UCAR.EDU writes:
>....  But the point I was making is that our culture's "man against,"
>"conquest of," and similar conceptions are unnecessarily competitive
>yet valued, whereas cooperative conceptual models are unnecessarily
>devalued as "weak."  The valued and the devalued are by false analogy
>connected to notions of "strong / masculine" and "weak / feminine"; in
>this context, feminism can encourage world-views in which humans work
>within natural systems without trying to dominate or annihilate them.
>
>                                                                  r.a.

Your statement seems to boil down to "men have ruined the earth because they
are inherantly competetive and women will save the earth because they
are inherantly cooperative."  This is a prime example of the "everything evil 
is caused by men" diatribe which I think is so detrimental to the feminist 
movement.  It is sexist, patently false, and overly simplistic.

Cooperative conceptual models are necessary for team sports such as football
(male) and the conversion of rain forest to cities (bad for the environment).
Not to mention that women are as competitive, uncooperative, and selfish
as men.

Judy