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From: yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu
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Subject: Re: Questions regarding Israel
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Date: 30 Oct 90 16:17:57 GMT
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It seems that zama is interested in philosophical discussions which is
not my interest and to my believe does not relate at all to the subject.

A gentleman asks weather the fact that Israel have survived may hint
Muslims that Israel is righteous and thus justified.

My respond was that the survival of Israel hinges on the backwardness
of Muslims of which is the believe that since what Allah wills, happens 
there is no reason for action. If one believes that his/her will does not
count why should they move. And this attitude is partly responsible for the
existence of the state of Israel. I have no doubt that Israelis loves us
to think in this manner. They don't mind us praying all day long. In fact they
prefer praying over throwing stone. As long as your belief is not put into
action is harmless an thus acceptable to them.

I strongly reject the idea that mankind has no will of himself. This idea 
degrades humans to the level of animals. In the story of the creation of
man, Allah distinguishes man from other creations by making him godlike.
In fact he revolted against the word of Allah because of the will that was
given to him by Allah and that is why we are here.

>From what I have read and heard, one of the conditions for the appearance of
Mahdi is the presence of his followers. Those who strive for the cause of
Allah but do not have the means and power necessary to take over the evil.

It is very unfortunate that today Americans, Israelis, and Russians are forcing
their will on us and we are discussing whether we have any will from ourselves?
Unless we do not decide to do something about Israel nothing will happen.