Xref: utzoo bionet.general:1084 sci.bio:3814 sci.research:1452 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!fernwood!portal!cup.portal.com!mmm From: mmm@cup.portal.com (Mark Robert Thorson) Newsgroups: bionet.general,sci.bio,sci.research Subject: Re: Need idea for Westinghouse project Message-ID: <35562@cup.portal.com> Date: 4 Nov 90 01:11:34 GMT References: <1990Oct29.222305.9923@phri.nyu.edu> Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 35 A reasonable application of computers for an introductory C programmer would be the collection of statistics. I remember how impressed I was to learn about the technique known as the evoked potential. Under computer control, you flash an input stimulus, then begin sampling from your electrodes. On a single trial run, the data looks like random noise, but collect 100 trials and average them out, and you see a distinct characteristic wave in response to the stimulus. The stimulus can be almost anything. The experiment I saw used bit-patterns flashed onto the frame buffer of a computer-graphics display. The response is a bit sticky. If I'm correct, the GE show forbids venipuncture of warm-blooded animals. I don't know what the regulations are on surface electrodes, but I'd guess that recording from humans and mammals is verboten. You can do anything you like with invertebrates. I suggest some sort of measurement of the visual processing of a snail or cockroach. Develop equipment to take brainwaves, then do evoked-potential work. For example, you clamp down the animal by gluing it to a styrofoam block. Your stimulus is a dark/light edge moving from left to right. This is done by having a black card under the tension of some rubber bands. The computer flips a bit, and a coil releases a catch so the card flies past the animal's visual field. Immediately when the command to release the catch is given, the computer begins recording brainwaves at 1/100 second intervals. Average 100 trials, and you should have some sort of interesting result. Sound is another easy stimulus variable. The computer emits a sound from its loudspeaker, and you capture a block of data from an A/D converter. Average 100 trials, and you should get some sort of characteristic wave. Some prominent scientists believe you can measure IQ by recording the evoked potentials observed on scalp electrodes applied to human subjects upon whom certain test images are flashed. I can provide references if needed. Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com