Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!jarthur!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!grian!steve From: steve@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us (Steve Mitchell) Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: Flocking behaviour, collective systems, reasoning Message-ID: <1990Nov5.210103.8022@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us> Date: 5 Nov 90 21:01:03 GMT References: <1990Nov2.124853.22806@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> Organization: College Park Software, Altadena, CA Lines: 28 mccool@dgp.toronto.edu (Michael McCool) writes: >kpc00@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (kpc) writes: >> 2 birds have these desires or analogues or homologues of these >> desires >I have used the word _want_ for lack of a better term; substitute tropism. Just to inject a bit of natural history into this discussion, for several years I lived with an English (house) sparrow. In my extensive observations of her I was forced to the conclusion that she did indeed "want" various things. As an example, I kept a variety of treat foods on hand. These included lettuce, jerusalem artichoke, cashew nuts, steamed rice, etc. When she wanted one of these things she would fly to the room I was in, give a particular call, and fly back to her usual feeding station. I would go there, and start naming the various treat foods currently on hand. When I got to the one she wanted, she'd start wiping her beak on her perch, staring at me, and wiping her beak. I would then get what she wanted and feed it to her. On occasion when I brought something she had not selected, she would reject it and go back to the staring-and-beak-wiping routine. She knew what she wanted! -- - Steve Mitchell steve@cps.altadena.ca.us grian!steve@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov ames!elroy!grian!steve "God is licht, an in him there is nae mirkness ava." -- 1 John 1:5