Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!emory!gatech!ncsuvx!news From: fostel@eos.ncsu.edu (Gary Fostel) Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: Consciousness Message-ID: <1990Nov9.202525.11717@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> Date: 9 Nov 90 20:25:25 GMT References: <10126@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV> <1990Oct27.070636.4144@wam.umd.edu> <5891@suned1.Nswses.Navy.MIL> <1990Nov9.180404.8915@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> Sender: news@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu (USENET News System) Reply-To: fostel@eos.ncsu.edu (Gary Fostel) Organization: North Carolina State University Lines: 19 I looked up Kuhn's "definition" of science, wondering if cog. sci, AI or related subjects would fit. Kuhn is also a post World War II philosopher of science, and his definition (beginning of chapter 2 in "Structure of Scientific ..." is delightfully recursive. I don't have it here at hand, but paraphrasing it (hopefully accurately) he say that science is that research activity that follows or builds upon previous scientific achievements. (!) By this sort of definition, a great many things can get bootstrapped up as a "science" and then stay a science by satisfying only a very weak membership test later on. This is actually a fairly good match to the modern usage of the term "science", but it is descriptive, not proscriptive. In that book he is clearly describing how things are rather than how they ought to be. ----GaryFostel---- Department of Computer Science North Carolina State University