Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!maytag!watdragon!violet!cpshelley From: cpshelley@violet.uwaterloo.ca (cameron shelley) Subject: Re: Consciousness Message-ID: <1990Nov10.015731.6722@watdragon.waterloo.edu> Sender: daemon@watdragon.waterloo.edu (Owner of Many System Processes) Organization: University of Waterloo References: <10126@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV> <1990Oct27.070636.4144@wam.umd.edu> <5891@suned1.Nswses.Navy.MIL> <1990Nov9.180404.8915@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> <1990Nov9.202525.11717@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 90 01:57:31 GMT Lines: 26 In article <1990Nov9.202525.11717@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> fostel@eos.ncsu.edu (Gary Fostel) writes: > > > I looked up Kuhn's "definition" of science, wondering if cog. sci, > AI or related subjects would fit. Kuhn is also a post World War II > philosopher of science, and his definition (beginning of chapter 2 in > "Structure of Scientific ..." is delightfully recursive. I don't have it > here at hand, but paraphrasing it (hopefully accurately) he say that > science is that research activity that follows or builds upon previous > scientific achievements. (!) > > By this sort of definition, a great many things can get bootstrapped up > as a "science" and then stay a science by satisfying only a very weak > membership test later on. This is actually a fairly good match to the > modern usage of the term "science", but it is descriptive, not proscriptive. > In that book he is clearly describing how things are rather than how they > ought to be. > And like any old boy's club, it is a hard one to join if you're new in town! :> -- Cameron Shelley | "Logic, n. The art of thinking and reasoning cpshelley@violet.waterloo.edu| in strict accordance with the limitations and Davis Centre Rm 2136 | incapacities of the human misunderstanding..." Phone (519) 885-1211 x3390 | Ambrose Bierce