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From: salmi@finsun.csc.fi (Timo Salmi)
Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d
Subject: Re: Downloading
Keywords: ftp,archives,simtel20,uwasa,wustl,network,email
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Date: 8 Nov 90 13:39:24 GMT
References: <1990Nov7.025027.18746@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> <3737@vela.acs.oakland.edu>
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In article <3737@vela.acs.oakland.edu> w8sdz@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Keith Petersen) writes:
>
>>I tried to get files from the large library at chyde.uwasa.fi
>>Here I can get in, but the connection is terribly slow.  I managed
>>to get a file at 0.030 kB/s (Thats 30 bytes per second !!!), one
>>somewhat (not much) faster than this but, in most cases, the
>>remote system hang the connection.
>
>I've been very concerned about Timo encouraging everyone to get files
>from uwasa.fi instead of telling users in North America to avoid the
>overseas path by using one of the many other archives in the USA such
>as SIMTEL20 and wuarchive.wustl.edu.  The overseas network connections
>should not be clogged with such ftp connections.  It has a drastic
>effect on delivery of email.

Ok.  Everyone take a note of what Keith says here.  First contact a
site NEAR you. 

>Now that uwasa.fi has an email server this will only get worse.  I
>hope they will alter the server to filter addresses, serving only
>Europe and the Far East.  Users in the USA should be limited to email
>servers in the USA.  Timo's programs and most of the other msdos files

There are two conficting issues here.  One is the very real load
problem.  The other is that this will be one more step backward to
the isolationist direction, just when we are beginning to enjoy the
first realizations of a true global electronic village. 

>on uwasa are available from SIMTEL20 and wuarchive.
>
>If we don't take some action on this now, I expect the network
>management people will do it for us.  The network cannot stand the
>overload.

If imposing limitations rather than trying for capacity increases is
going to be the more like reaction, the problem has to be taken all
the more seriously. 

...................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi        (Moderating at anon. ftp site 128.214.12.3)
School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland
Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun