Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!wuarchive!usc!apple!bionet!hayes.ims.alaska.edu!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com (David Tamkin) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Spring Ahead, Fall Behind Message-ID: <14430@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 6 Nov 90 16:49:29 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: TELECOM Digest Lines: 38 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 796, Message 2 of 11 In volume 10, issue 793, Philip Gladstone wrote: | A point to note is that the leap second which is inserted (or removed) | is the last second before 00:00:00 *GMT*. Leap seconds are never removed. The whole reason that we have leap seconds is that the second was redefined in the late 1960's by some physical or atomic standard (just as the meter was redefined around the same time and the inch followed); there was a choice between a definition that was slightly too short for 1/86,400 of an average solar day and having to add leap seconds occasionally and one that was slightly too long with a result of needing to skip leap seconds occasionally. The selection was the former for the very reason that holding a clock still to add a leap second was considered less difficult (or less confusing) than speeding one up to skip a leap second. Surely some of the readers can name organizations, dates, and people involved in that decision. | I've always wondered how the change is handled as it occurrs in the middle | of the evening for US people, which is a time when it might get noticed. | Over here, the winter change happens during New Year's celebrations and | nobody is sober enough to care! Nobody? Maybe no one of Mr. Gladstone's acquaintance, but nobody? Anyhow, yes, in North America the leap seconds are added in the late afternoon or early evening, but most people aren't affected by a single second one way or the other, so people who are interested in timekeeping notice it and those who are not do not; imbibing has nothing to do with it. How did the UK cope with the leap second added on June 30, 1972, when fewer people were inebriated? [Perhaps Mr. Gladstone's crowd got drunk then too; a leap second is reason enough just on its own for a blowout. You have to spend that extra second doing *something*.] David Tamkin Box 7002 Des Plaines IL 60018-7002 708 518 6769 312 693 0591 MCI Mail: 426-1818 GEnie: D.W.TAMKIN CIS: 73720,1570 dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com