Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!bionet!hayes.ims.alaska.edu!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: asuvax!rako!rakoczynskij@ncar.ucar.edu (Jurek Rakoczynski) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Distinctions and Definitions Needed Message-ID: <14448@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 1 Nov 90 17:29:35 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: AG Communication Systems-Phoenix, AZ Lines: 60 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 797, Message 8 of 10 In article <14055@accuvax.nwu.edu>, floyd@hayes.ims.alaska.edu (Floyd Davidson) writes: > In article <14030@accuvax.nwu.edu> George S Thurman <0004056081@ > mcimail.com> writes: >>Could some of you Telecom Experts out there tell me (in simple >>terms) the difference between SS7 and CCIS. > CCS (Common Channel Signaling) removes the signaling functions from > the individual trunks (ie. multifreq tones for dialing numbers) and text > deleted CCIS (Common Channel Interoffice Signaling) is AT&T's > implementation of CCS. CCITT Signaling System No. 7 is the most > recent CCS implementation. SS7 provides more information to the > terminating end office and does more trunk testing before setting up > a path. CCIS introduced Out-of-Band signaling in Class 1-4 offices (pre- divestiture usage :-) ). In actual implementation, I don't think it was continued down to the Class 5 end office. There was, however, some development by GTE (and AT&T?) to put it in Class 5 offices. BTW: AT&T may not have 'officially' implemented all of the Data Bits on the STP link required in the CCIS specs. SS7 extended the general principle of Out-of-Band signaling to the end office. It also implements the 7 layer signaling protocol, which CCIS did not have. CCIS is still in use, but will be phased and replaced with SS7. The above is VERY short but to the point. Some trivia: An interesting problem came up when telcos were being given classes on development of CCIS on the end office. With CCIS on an end office, if the originating end office was able to complete its' part of the call set-up, but the terminating end office could not (eg. busy phone, etc.), the originating office was to return reorder tone (120 ips), instead of the terminating office, since the voice path had not been established. A trivial matter you say! :-) HA! The peg counters (old term) that recorded the uncompleted traffic, would also show the uncompleted CCIS call as uncompleted in the originating office log. These records are used to monitor the office for the PUC, salaries for the CO people, etc. Even though a certain amount of traffic is expected to be uncompleted for legitimate reasons (caller goes on-hook before call completion, Mother's Day, etc.), excess uncompleted calls could mean poor switch maintenance. CCIS would obviously increase the uncompleted call record. A soution to have another record type, log CCIS problems, was to be developed if SS7 did not come around. Thanks to Heinz Berg at my office for filling me in on some of the above info. UUCP: {ncar!noao!asuvax | uunet!zardoz!hrc | att}!gtephx!rakoczynskij Inet: gtephx!rakoczynskij@asuvax.eas.asu.edu Voice: +1 602 581 4867 Fax: +1 602 582 7111