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From: dkletter@adobe.COM (SUGAR in their vitamins?)
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Subject: Re: Fonts at 300 dpi (was: Wanted - Review of "Ellington" Font)
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Date: 9 Nov 90 07:52:12 GMT
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In article <39371@ut-emx.uucp> clouds@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Kathy Strong)
writes:

>Aaauuughhh! Don't get me wrong--I *love* Optima. I think Hermann Zapf is
>a god and any type he does is okay by me. But please, PLEASE don't ruin
>Optima by printing it in text sizes (10-12 points) at 300 dpi. All the
>beautiful subtlety of that face, the swells at the ends of the strokes
>that make Optima the sans-serif face in a class by itself--they just
>go away at those sizes.

not to mention the slight angle of the face is lost at smaller point sizes
on laserwriters... of course, there's something to be said for others
judgements getting in the way of intersting design...

>May I suggest, instead, Univers? I personally find it boring, but it holds
>up well at small sizes.

boring? geez you like Optima and you can't appreciate a typeface that was
geometrically designed? Adrain Frutiger is an amazing type designer and
the Univers fonts remain one of my favourites.

of course, there's always Franklin Gothic (font of Andy Warhol's INTERVIEW
magazine!) which holds up very nicely.

>I saw some "presentations graphics" recently that were done in Kabel, and
>they looked terrific.

while i like Kabel (pronounced Ka-ble not Ka-BELL as so many do), i find it
to be a font in need of a specific usage.
 
>And a third suggestion: If you want the feel of a sans-serif but don't
>want to sacrifice readability or interest, try one of the square serifs.

you mean, Egyptian typefaces?

in any case, if you are looking for PostScript typefaces that were designed
with laserprinting in mind, check out the following (which i have not seen
mentioned yet):

	Utopia (which i think is a very beautiful text face)
	Utopia Expert

	Minion (again, a great text face)
	Minion Expert

	all the Helvetica Neue's (and there are quite a few to choose
	from now)

later. --d


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