Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!lisboa!windemut From: windemut@lisboa.tmc.edu (Andreas Windemuth) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.visualization Subject: Re: Biomedical field? Summary: NeXT computer for visualization Message-ID: <1990Nov8.020108.11026@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: 8 Nov 90 02:01:08 GMT References: <1470@vtsai2.sai.vtt.fi> <1990Nov7.193654.7665@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> Sender: windemut@lisboa.ks.uiuc.edu (Andreas Windemuth) Organization: Theoretical Biophysics, University of Illinois, Urbana Lines: 68 andyrose@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Andy Rose) writes: > Likewise ... > If a seemingly strong commitment to graphics, if judged by the size of > Tek's booth at SIGGRAPH, can vanish, where do graphics people put their > "beans"? IBM (RS6000), Silicon Graphics, Stardent,souped up apples? One possible solution to advanced scientific visualization that comes to my mind is the NeXTdimension board from NeXT computer Corp. We are definitely considering this machine for the visualization of macromolecules here. A list of the features of such a system ($20k educational with 16M RAM and 2.8Gb Disk) includes full 24 bit colour plus 8 bit alpha, 60-80 MFlops graphics performance (an i860), 30,000 Polygons per second (Gouraud shaded) and actual live video capture, storage and playback. The latter would make all the expensive video equipment that is usually associated with scientific visualization obsolete, as the NeXTdimension board is supposed to be able to digitize live video, store it on disk, do any editing in software using an application with a friendly user interface and output the result as a high quality video signal. Generating animations with rendering software such as Renderman would also be possible. All that is needed in the way of video equipment is a VCR to put final edited videos (of which up to 60min can be stored on 2.8 Gbytes of disk) on tape. The VCR can supposedly be connected to the board with a standard video cable (both RGBS and Composite). Given that the NeXT is a full-blown workstation and has the most progressive software development environment on the market (especially compared with that of Silicon Graphics, Stardent or Sun), it would seem to me that the NeXTdimension machine is superior to any other configuration that I can think of costing three times as much, not even considering the video feature. One problem with this setup might be the (as yet) unavailability of ready-to-go software packages. Having tried my hand at Wavefront, though, I must say that I would prefer custom coding in NeXTstep to using this awfully kludgy package. On the other hand, maybe I just don't know it well enough. AVS is more in the spirit of NeXTstep, and I suppose that NeXT (or some third-party developer) are planning to implement something like that in the future. IMHO, if there is any machine/philosophy for doing Visualisation and Animation already evident at this time that could be "sailing into the 21st century", chances are it's the NeXTdimension system. Even though I might not sound like that, I have no connection to NeXT other than as a very satisfied customer. Andreas Windemuth Theoretical Biophysics Group University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 3121 Beckman Institute 405 N. Mathews, Urbana Illinois 61801