Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!ncar!noao!arizona!naucse!root From: root@naucse.cse.nau.edu (Paul Balyoz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.domains Subject: Subnetting and RFC 1101 Keywords: subnetting rfc 1101 host zero Message-ID: <2858@naucse.cse.nau.edu> Date: 7 Nov 90 21:59:31 GMT Organization: Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff AZ Lines: 36 I have a few questions on Subnetting (and domains) for anyone out there: Is it legal to use an address for a NETWORK such that the subnet portion is all zeroes? For example, suppose that the class-B address 134.114 has been assigned to you, and you use 8-bit subnetting (netmask is 255.255.255.0). Does this mean that 134.114.0 can be used as a legal subnetwork, which can have hosts assigned below it (134.114.0.23), or must there be a non-zero value for the subnet portion (3rd octet)? How about 255 for the 3rd octet? Seems like this should be OK, because your broadcast address would be 134.114.255.255, which, with the aforementioned netmask, is only broadcast for the network 134.114.255 . ---------- If this is legal, then I see a problem with the extensions described by RFC 1101. Suppose addresses 134.114 are subnetted 255.255.255.0, but then subnet 134.114.0 is subnetted FURTHER: netmask 255.255.255.248! Both of those networks would have the SAME HOST-ZERO ADDRESS(!): 0.0.114.134.in-addr.arpa. They therefore cannot be described separately in the Domain Name Server resource-records, the way RFC 1101 says to do it. Facts/ideas/opinions, anyone? -- Paul Balyoz, Software Specialist II pab@naucse.cse.nau.edu Northern Arizona University root@naucse.cse.nau.edu PO Box 15600, Flagstaff, AZ 86011 pab%naucse@arizona.edu NICname for whois: PB1 ...arizona!naucse!pab